Christian Engström, Pirate MEP

23 oktober 2009

An insult to the Parliament

Postat i: English,informationspolitik,Telecoms Package — Christian Engström @ 13:36

This is a translation of an entry in Swedish that I posted yesterday.

Thursday October 22, there was a trialogue meeting about the telecoms package. The three negotiators representing the European Parliament met with representatives for the Council om Ministers to discuss a text to replace the famous Amendment 138.

The Council of Ministers presented the following proposal. Additions in bold compared to the text agreed by the Parliaments delegation in the October 20 meeting, deletions crossed out.

3a. Measures taken by Member States regarding end-users’ access to or use of services and applications through electronic communications networks shall respect the fundamental rights and freedoms of natural persons, as guaranteed by the European Convention for the Protection of Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms and general principles of Community law.

Any of the above measures liable to restrict those fundamental rights or freedoms may therefore only be taken in exceptional circumstances and imposed if they are appropriate, proportionate and necessary within a democratic society, and shall be subject to adequate procedural safeguards in conformity with the European Convention for the Protection of Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms and with general principles of Community law, including effective judicial protection and due process. In particular, any These measures may only be adopted as a result of a prior, shall respect the requirements of a fair and impartial procedure ensuring inter alia that the principle of presumption of innocence and including the right to be heard of the person or persons concerned be fully respected. Furthermore, and the right to an effective and timely judicial review shall be guaranteed.

This shall not affect the competence of a Member State, in conformity with its own constitutional order and with fundamental rights, inter alia, to establish a requirement of a judicial decision authorising the measures to be taken and to adopt urgent measures in order to assure national security, defence, public security and the prevention, investigation, detection and prosecution of criminal offences.

Please feel free to compare this text to the texts previously presented by the Council and the Commission.

If you don’t feel like digging into text comparisons, I’ll provide an executive summary:

The Council has removed all amendments that the Parliament inserted to guarantee that nobody will be shut off from the Internet without at least a prior trial, and reverted to a position that is identical in substance to what the Council and the Commission have previously proposed.

An even more executive summary:

The Council shows its complete contempt for the Parliament by totally ignoring its views. The ministers intend to teach the Parliament a lesson, and once and for all show who’s in charge.

This procedure is called ”co-decision”, in case anyone wondered. It is often cited as an example of how democratic the European Union is.

Attachment: The document from the Council as pdf.

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Others about the proposal from the Council (in Swedish): DN, Hax

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17 kommentarer

  1. Be prepared to let the entire Package fall. That would teach the Council a lesson about disrespecting the European Parliament.

    Kommentar av Daniel — 23 oktober 2009 @ 14:41

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  4. It’s quite easy, isn’t it.

    Either, the council as all others confirms that our countries abide by the European Convention, as is the simple thing remaining.

    Or, the council in some misguided attempt to comfort Mr. Sarkozy in his childplay games of pretending that the European Convention would be arbitrary to France, cancels the telecoms package in it’s current form.

    If the council persists, I will be happy to see the telecoms package being cancelled to protect paramount citizen rights.

    Let’s then not start crafting a new telecomes package.

    Instead, the next step ahead is starting to discuss the European Convention, whether it should remain, what for, why, how we dismantle or protect it, etc.

    We shouldn’t have conventions if they’re worth less than the misguided mind of a person, be it a Mr. Sarkozy or anyone else of us.

    Kommentar av Jakob — 23 oktober 2009 @ 14:52

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    Pingback av An insult to the Parliament « Christian Engström, Pirate MEP — 24 oktober 2009 @ 0:46

  7. Maybe it actually was an insult, doh, considering internal politics and all? But prolly it was just same old same old.

    Learn everything there is about the internal rules and regulations, as quickly as humanly possible. That’ll be the only way you can figure out how to get the upper hand in most situations. Just remember your in office ’cause your an idealist, and not ’cause it’s all about a political career.

    Kommentar av ST — 24 oktober 2009 @ 1:10

  8. Kommentar av Anonym — 24 oktober 2009 @ 1:17

  9. [...] powerful, unelected bureaucrats who have been heavily lobbied by the entertainment industry), they rewrote it (detail) so that disconnection can take place without trial or other due [...]

    Pingback av Barnhard Blog » Blog Archive » EU: Internet disconnection without check is ok — 24 oktober 2009 @ 12:18

  10. [...] eftersom det är svenska ministrar just nu som leder ministerrådet. Se Christians postningar här om ministrarnas hån och här om en sammanfattning av [...]

    Pingback av Rick Falkvinge (PP) » Nya krafter efter FRA-nederlaget — 31 oktober 2009 @ 22:17

  11. Finns din hemsida på svenska också…

    Kommentar av Anders Hjortenklev — 1 november 2009 @ 8:34

  12. Hej. Jag föddes under Sveriges begynnande moderna storhetstid, 60-talet. Idag är jag 47 år och grymt besviken på den begynnande smyg fascistiska politik som idag bedrivs i stort sett i alla länder i Europa. Jag läste boken 1984 när den var fortfarande bara var en i mängden av bra sci-fi berättelser som jag slukade, men den stannade kvar i tankarna. Genom åren sedan jag läste den har den mer och mer blivit en uppfylld profetia om den moderna staten. Nu är den inte längre en sci-fi story, den har blivit en sanning i vardandet och bildandet av bl.a den nya FRA lagen.

    Jag är en av de många tusentals gräsrötter som fick in Piratpartiet i EU-parlamentet och kunde någon med insikt, förståelse och tillräcklig ”smartness”, fläta ihop det som PP står för tillsammans med kärnan av den socialdemokratiska grundpolitiken, om det går att få ihop så finns där grunden till en verklig föränderlig fungerande politik för den enskilde likväll som för massan, ja då finns det ett hopp även för framtiden.

    Sluta aldrig med att ”bråka” inom politiken. Sluta aldrig med att berätta även de mest triviala lagförändringar och lagtillägg som görs för att stjäla kontrollen över oss, vi som är längst ned på näringskedjan inom all politik, gräsrötterna.

    Om det ändå kunde få komma fram en ny Gunnar Sträng, Olof PALME eller en helt ny version av den ”goda” politikern som arbetade för ALLAS bästa, och inte för sin egen skull. För tyvärr finns det idag INGEN som ens kommer i närheten av deras retorik och kunnande om vad som är rätt för ett land som Sverige.

    DU GÖR ETT BRA JOBB. Låt ingen ta ifrån dig den vetskapen, DU GÖR ETT BRA JOBB!

    Roger J Lundkvist

    Kommentar av Roger Lundkvist — 1 november 2009 @ 18:53

  13. you are my last line to society. Fight for me and us and everyone!

    Kommentar av anonym.01 — 1 november 2009 @ 21:35

  14. [...] in what was described this week as an “insult to the parliament”, the Ministers ignored the delegation and removed from the proposal the references to [...]

    Pingback av The Telecoms Package – a failure for democracy « The Fat Controller — 3 november 2009 @ 4:33

  15. [...] Package conciliation produced the following text to be presented to the Council (compared to the Council’s last proposal): 3a. Measures taken by Member States regarding end-users’ access to or use of services and [...]

    Pingback av Telecom conciliation: Parliament’s new proposal « Christian Engström, Pirate MEP — 4 november 2009 @ 21:54

  16. [...] On Thursday, the Council replied by proposing a modified version of that text. I called their proposal ”An insult to the Parliament”. [...]

    Pingback av The Hadopi test for the Telecoms Package « Christian Engström, Pirate MEP — 19 februari 2010 @ 14:10

  17. [...] in what was described this week as an “insult to the parliament”, the Ministers ignored the delegation and removed from the proposal the references to [...]

    Pingback av The Telecoms Package – a failure for democracy « UnlikelyPython — 16 januari 2011 @ 7:08


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